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THE INVITATION

This Wednesday Night, we are very pleased to welcome Dr. Vithal Rajan, [Bio]

Vithal is particularly interested in discussing issues surrounding the feasibility of making a Cyber pathway to Learning for the poor in India, but as you will see from his biography, there are many other subjects on which he is well qualified to speak.

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Wednesday Night Salon #986

January 24, 2001

INTRODUCTIONS

Professor Katherine Young, an associate of Margo Somerville at the Centre for Medecine Ethics and Law specializes in ancient religious rites applied to modern issues. She has recently returned from India where she was pursuing one of her major areas of research, Hinduism and Buddhism in India, this time looking at comparative issues of patients' rights.

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Me John Hurley, partner at Fraser Milner Casgrain, heads the Indigenous Affairs Practice Group and is an Environmental expert. Having obtained his Law degree at the Université de Montréal, John received his PhD from Cambridge where he researched aboriginal historical rights under the French Régime.


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Prof. Sheila Arnopoulos, Author (Jackrabbit Moon, Voices from French Ontario, The English Fact in Quebec) and assistant professor, department of Journalism, (Full Fellow) Concordia University, is a Governor General's Award winner. United States Consul General Mary Pendleton, a professional diplomat, who will be leaving Montreal later this year to take up a new post in Egypt.

Vithal Rajan, our guest of honour whose impressive biography is shown (below)

Professor Katherine Young

Professor Young has several areas of expertise. In addition to a constant production of research in South Indian religion, she also searches out new scholarship on women and religion. This material has been published in the series of volumes on Women and World Religions and in the Annual Review of Women in World Religions which she coedits with Prof. Sharma. In addition, she is also a member of the McGill Centre for Medicine, Ethics and Law, has recently published a major study of euthanasia and sits on national advisory bodies on issues dealing with research and ethics.
Awards/grants:
1990 $2700 seed grant from McGill Humanities Research Grants sub-committee for "Reproduction and Religion in India" 1988-90 Donner Foundation, $500,000, "New Reproductive Technologies and the Family", principal investigator with M. Somerville and P. Nathanson in connection with the development of a Family and Law Program (McGill Centre for Medicine, Ethics, and Law)
Major research area:
Hinduism and Buddhism in India; Tamil Vaisnavism (6th-14th century C.E.); Gender and Religion; Comparative Ethics


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Maggie Mackinnon is a 37-year-old reporter for the Montreal Tribune who enjoys her middle-class life. But her life begins to change when she covers the trial of Nick, a young biker and his stripper wife, Eileen, who are charged with causing the death of their baby boy. While her newspaper wants a sensationalized story, Maggie discovers a story about what happens when people with no skills try to get by in a harsh world. Jackrabbit Moon examines crime, prostitution, the justice system and the effect of prison on ordinary people. $18.95C

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5 June 1999 Bilingual anglos who have close ties with francophones are more appreciative than unilingual folks of the historic wounds that are still nursed by many French-speakers over symbolic issues like the language of commercial signs, suggests journalist Sheila McLeod Arnopoulos, co-author of the 1980 book The English Fact in Quebec. and on ..."One of the nice things about being a minority," observes award-winning writer Sheila Arnopoulos, who in 1980 was co-author of the landmark book The English Fact in Quebec, "is that you tend to be more creative. It's a lot more fun to be English in Montreal than it is to be English in Toronto, because we're in a minority situation. It makes you rub ideas together." ... Even William Weintraub , the writer and filmmaker, who acknowledges he is something of a hawk on "English rights" and the national question, concedes the film he made six years ago was probably unduly pessimistic.

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THE LATIMER CASE

How can one not empathize with as man who, fully conscious of the consequences, ends his daughter's life in order to alleviate her interminable pain and suffering? Should the government exercise the royal prerogative and grant Robert Latimer clemency? Definitely not! Diminishing in any way, the sanctity of human life would compromise the principles of our society, yet a ten year incarceration seems excessive when there is very little if any probability of him ever again committing murder. In charging him with second rather than first degree murder, the State has already shown him clemency, excessively so in the minds of some Canadians. However, the purpose of imprisonment remains unclear. Could the state have achieved the same purpose at much less expense by for example, permitting him to complete his sentence confined to his home, now possible with readily available technology?

Opinions on the Supreme Court ruling on this "mercy killing" were sharply divided, however it was agreed that the facts of this case may not be as clearcut as presented in the media. The family were offered alternatives for the child's care and refused them. Most probably, clemency (in the form of house arrest) will be exercised, but not immediately.

CLINTON'S EXIT

While Clinton will probably be judged by history as a good president (though not a great one), it is important to remember that much of his track record is due to luck, i.e.: low oil prices, low inflation, the rapid spread of the PC and an Internet economy leading to the realization of long-anticipated productivity boosts (the good fortune of having a Vice President who "invented the Internet"), low mobilization of the military.

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On the other hand, HE kept civil rights issues in the forefront, decided to concentrate on lowering the debt; tried to introduce effective, universal Medicare; he spared no effort in trying to achieve peace in the Middle East and without him, peace in Northern Ireland wouldn't have happened.

Apart from his obvious moral lapses, others such as the pardoning of Michael Rich, have been overlooked or forgotten by some, not by others. see A PARDON FOR MILKEN? and others.

Will the U.S. ever change to a Canadian Medicare régime? More likely there will be a blending of systems in both countries.

INDIA

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India, a mature democracy of almost a billion people, with a population density of close to three hundred inhabitants per square kilometre and sixteen languages, is a nation struggling to take its rightful place in the community of modern democratic nations. What has been considered by many to have been India's unfortunate but successful effort to develop nuclear weapons and the ongoing struggle in Kashmir ("that piece of ice"), have diverted precious funds from this development. (India spends the equivalent of half the budget for education on Kashmir.).

Apart from the problems arising from density of population, India lacks potable water and clean energy sources and the literacy rate is appalling. Fifty percent of Indians are illiterate, with the illiteracy rate for women rising to seventy-five percent. Where women become literate, health and mortality rates improve, their status and empowerment increase and the birthrate declines.

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Education is key. People want education. No parent would want their children to work if education were available, but often only through work can the child receive any skills training. Child labour issues have brought criticism and threats of sanctions, but some supposed child labour is in reality a system of apprenticeship, in the absence of more formal practical education. As for true instances of child labour, the situation would be exacerbated by the imposition of sanctions, but greatly improved, as it has been elsewhere, by reducing the poverty rate and improving educational opportunities.

The key to improved - and more widely accessible - education is the Internet. Canada's TeleLearning expertise is an exceptional model. Problems exist both in shaky connectivity and inadequate content, but these are not insurmountable. There is a need to foster women's organizations which have elsewhere have worked successfully to improve conditions and have underlined that it is possible to find an enormous capacity in people who appear helpless and hopeless ("Modern technology and empowerment brought together with wisdom and compassion").

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It is imperative that the prevailing philosophy with its emphasis on the dichotomy of material versus interior well-being must be attached to a national effort to combat the litany of woes. With the convergence of a growing middle class now numbering over two hundred million, there are enormous changes currently taken place. A social conscience is developing among some industrialists who are introducing social programs, working FOR the people. There appears to be a change in values and, as India's past is marked by both material and spiritual values, it may be that materialism is coming to the forefront.

Recalling the Chinese ideogram representing both Danger and Opportunity, there is good reason to be hopeful for India's future despite the enormity of the problems,

QUOTES OF THE EVENING:

  • "There is a touch of God in all living things, especially human beings."

    On India:

  • "It was socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor"
  • "Our technology vastly outstrips our ability to deliver knowledge."
  • "In India ... preoccupation with soul, spirit, individual's feeling of well-being,(versus) materialism."
  • " Bringing in technology can only break many taboos." Globalization may only be another word for re-colonization."

Jan 30

Dear Diana and David

Thank you so much for that wonderful evening. It was a rare moment, to so many interesting people. all so fully engaged with vital issues, under your expertly managed chairmanship. I hope I may come again. I attach a brief article I found in the newspapers back home about IT and this State of Andhra Pradesh. I shall be in touch again, but my first task now has to be organising what help we can give from Hyderabad for the victims of this ghastly earthquake in Gujarat.

with warm good wishes sincerely
Dr. Vithal Rajan
1-2-16/11, Block B, First Street
Habsiguda
Hyderabad 500 007 AP
India
tel: +91-40-717-2884
email: vithal2@hd1.vsnl.net.in

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Brief CV of Vithal Rajan

Vithal Rajan (BA Hons McGill, PhD London School of Economics) immigrated to Canada from India in the mid 1960's, and worked for several years as Information Officer for Canadian Industries Ltd. in Montreal. A special task assigned to him was developing a program of 'social consciousness' for the company.

Following the intensification of the Vietnam War, he involved himself in the peace movement, and even served as a 'mediator' in Belfast, Northern Ireland, in the early 1970's on behalf of the World Council of Churches and the Pontifical Commission for Peace. Later, he was a founder faculty member of the School of Peace Studies, Bradford University, U.K.

Following the suspension of civil liberties in India by Mrs Indira Gandhi, he felt impelled to return to India, and based at Hyderabad, he has worked in an honorary capacity with several civil society organizations, and especially with ' untouchable' communities of very poor women.

He was founder volunteer chair of the Deccan Development Society, which promotes integrated rural development in the semi-arid poverty-stricken Deccan plateau, literacy and community health programs, and ecological agriculture. Several NGOs like his own helped establish the fact that poor women can save and manage very successfully large funds in their community interest.

He is now volunteer chair, governing body of the Confederation of Voluntary Associations, which works through community empowerment for harmony between poor Hindu and Muslim communities living in Indian slums. This association also plays a vital role in the Pakistan-India Peoples Forum for Peace and Democracy, a citizens' initiative to bring peace to the two great powers of South Asia. He also chairs an advisory committee of a federation of over a hundred grassroots 'dalit' or 'untouchables' organizations.

Special projects he has initiated include ecological management of agricultural pests without resort to dangerous pesticides; and the introduction of solar energy for the benefit of poor communities; and information technologies for basic education. He is an advisor to the Government of Andhra Pradesh, India, on new development strategies for the 21st century.

Over the last two decades, he has also worked on brief stints in Europe, as Chair of World Studies, International School of Geneva; as Director, Ethics and Education, World Wide Fund for Nature International, Switzerland; and as Executive Director, the Right Livelihood Awards, Sweden (better known as the 'Alternative Nobel Prize' in Europe).

He lives some of the time in Hyderabad, India, with his wife, K. Lalita, a well-known feminist and writer. As a Canadian citizen, he treasures hopes of being of service some day to Canadian communities; especially in BC, since his daughter is now studying at UBC.




REBUILDING COMMUNITIES: Experiences and experiments in Europe
edited by Vithal Rajan

The ideas, the stories and the struggles of people from many walks of life who are concerned with restoring the health and vitality of communities and their natural environments. Includes many case studies, including conservation and development projects which are being undertaken by WWF with local organisations in several European countries. Resurgence in assn. with WWF 288 pp with 20 b/w photos 234 x 156mm ISBN 1 870098 50 1 £9.95 pb

"Ce livre devrait être le point de départ d'une enquête publique, à l'échelle mondiale, sur le fonctionnement des institutions et des politiques internationales axées sur la préservation de la nature." Vithal Rajan, membre fondateur de la Société de développement du Deccan et de la Confédération des associations bénévoles, Inde et membre du jury du Right Livelihood Award (Prix des justes moyens d'existence).

The 50th anniversary of independence of India and Pakistan, with a broad program of political and cultural activities which started with an evening talk on child labour by Vithal Rajan, the leader of an Indian NGO which is very active on this issue. (Alternatives publishes a page in HOUR magazine, one of Montreal's major independant English papers which has a weekly circulation of over 60,000 copies. ...a group of Alternatives activists in Quebec City broadcast a weekly program of international and regional news linked with the work of Alternatives.


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Fri 5/4/01 QUEBEC HALTS ADOPTIONS FROM INDIA
The agency that overseas international adoptions in Quebec has put a stop to adoptions from India. see also Monday 29 January 2001 Together in adversity by ASHOK CHANDWANI The news broke over a late breakfast on Friday at a lakeside resort in the tranquil backwaters of the lush, eternally green state of Kerala on India's southwest tip.
"I hope things are OK for you back home in Bombay," a fellow guest remarked. "I overheard heard someone say they had some tremors there."

Benard Landry the king! Jean Charest then Money & Business

Sat 2/24/01 CANADA SENDS $5 MILLION MORE QUAKE AID TO INDIA Canada is sending more money to India, to help the country recover from last month's killer earthquake.

Sat 2/24/01 8:32 AM Southern India is where it's at
By: NORMAN WEBSTER The Gazette This must be one of the few places left in the world where the hammer-and-sickle emblem of communism is still proudly displayed. The rice-green state of Kerala, in the extreme southwest of India, was the first place in the world to freely elect a communist government. That was in 1957, and the Marxists are still in office, although these days they alternate periods of government and opposition with the more conventional Congress Party.
Both sides claim credit for the evident local prosperity, which has made Kerala something of a poster child for India in the new millennium. Its Canada-size population of 30 million enjoys both the lowest infant-mortality rate and the highest literacy rate in the country.

29/Jan/2001 INDIA QUAKE DEATH TOLL MAY SURPASS 20,000
As dawn arrived in western India Monday, rescue crews clawed through collapsed buildings desperately hoping to find more survivors of a massive earthquake that killed countless villagers.

29/Jan/2001 Together in adversity
By:ASHOK CHANDWANI The news broke over a late breakfast on Friday at a lakeside resort in the tranquil backwaters of the lush, eternally green state of Kerala on India's southwest tip.
"I hope things are OK for you back home in Bombay," a fellow guest remarked. "I overheard heard someone say they had some tremors there."

23/Jan/2001 EXAMS DEFERRED TO FACILITATE PROTESTERS
Montreal's Concordia University is trying to make it easier for students to protest at the Summit of the Americas in Quebec City.
CONCORDIA TO BUILD NEW DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS
Concordia University is planning a $200-million facelift to its downtown campus; engineering, computer science and visual arts building
The John Molson School of Business would go up in the empty lot on the southwest corner of Guy and de Maisonneuve.

23/Jan/2001 IMMIGRANTS FITTING WELL INTO QUEBEC SOCIETY: STUDY
A new study says immigrants to this province integrate well into Quebec society. The study, entitled "Now They're From Here" was released on Tuesday. montreal.cbc.ca/cgi-bin/view?/news/2001/01/23/immigrants010123
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Tue Mar 21 2000 Dr. Vithal Rajan Chairman, Governing Body, Confederation of Voluntary Associations, India. India insists on 'minimum nuclear deterrent' NEW DELHI - India's prime minister says his country will conduct no further tests of nuclear weapons, but it won't disarm. Audio

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26/Jan/2001 DEATH TOLL TOPS 2,000 IN INDIAN QUAKE
Aid officials are scrambling to get help to western India and Pakistan this weekend. The most powerful earthquake to rock the region in half a century killed at least 2,000 people Friday.



India from Wednesday-Night #909

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The topic was introduced by video clips featuring Josh Freed's film "Coat of many countries".

India is a vast, diverse, stable, democratic country with improving economic conditions, tempered only by the continuing rapidly increasing population which puts a strain on and threatens to overburden the country's infrastructure. The current policy of committing large budgets to Defense rather than to education and planned parenthood programs is harming the country's future.

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With a population of over a billion, more than seventy-nine percent of whom are Hindus, sixteen hundred dialects, eighteen official languages, people living in abject poverty cheek by jowl with others in extreme wealth, the success achieved by a democratic India is remarkable. "What's amazing is how much works". [Buddhists are a mere 0.7 per cent. The breakdown according to the CIA factbook is: Hindu 80%, Muslim 14%, Christian 2.4%, Sikh 2%, Buddhist 0.7%, Jains 0.5%, other 0.4%

IndiaCIA Factbook on India
Thanks to Ashok Chandwani for correcting our facts

In recent years, the economy has shifted from dependence on the export of resources to the manufacture and export of value-added commodities including gems, jewelry, clothing, software, high precision engineering goods, electronics. Trains and planes arrive and leave on time, and the country runs amazingly well.

AISLIN


The strength of India is a strong democratic tradition - even if in a political sense democracy is a new construct - binding together a huge vastly diverse population. Its main weakness is the inability of this diverse population to arrive at a consensus. What keeps it going is education. India has the largest middle class (defined by purchasing parity) in the world and it is this educated middle class who believes deeply in democracy.

There is a growing common sense of belonging and a common horizon which probably held this country together following the departure of the British. This sense of belonging was evident recently when private rescuers came to the aid of earthquake victims well ahead of government assistance, much in the same manner as occurred in Canada during the Manitoba and Québec floods. Was Ghandi the father or the product of the gentle democratic tradition evident in today's India? In fact, there is a long history of tolerance of diverse religious beliefs and the philosophy espoused by some 730 million Hindus is at the root of the cohesion of today's India.

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David and Diana Nicholson



25/Jan/2001 17:02
Hello David and Diana,

Thank-you for a very interesting evening once again. Dr. Vithal Rajan was indeed charming with his poetic descriptions of India. Having spent a year in India at the age of 15, I feel a strong connection to that wonderful country. I hope one day to be able to return to India, to contribute to its continuing development and walk again among its magical people. I was also glad to meet Dr. David Stragway and to learn that he is in close contact with Lousie Guay at My Virtual Model.

Unfortunately I was unable to attend the end of the evening as my beautiful date, Irina, was feeling ill and needed my immediate attention. As my duty lay with her well being, I had to leave abruptly knowing that you would fully understand.

For next week I have invited, as you requested, my uncle Andre's Vietnamese girlfriend who has just completed a masters degree in Economic Studies at McGill. With your permission I will also bring Sophia Southam, a brilliant film editor and artist, who is a dear friend of mine and x-girlfriend. Her grandfather is the renowned Hamilton Southam, who among many other achievements has brought us the National Arts Centre in Ottawa.

Looking forward to seeing you both next week and thank-you again for an enchanting evening.

Sincerely,
Gregory Saumier-Finch

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Professor Katherine Young

Professor Young has several areas of expertise. In addition to a constant production of research in South Indian religion, she also searches out new scholarship on women and religion. This material has been published in the series of volumes on Women and World Religions and in the Annual Review of Women in World Religions which she coedits with Prof. Sharma. In addition, she is also a member of the McGill Centre for Medicine, Ethics and Law, has recently published a major study of euthanasia and sits on national advisory bodies on issues dealing with research and ethics.
Awards/grants:
1990 $2700 seed grant from McGill Humanities Research Grants sub-committee for "Reproduction and Religion in India" 1988-90 Donner Foundation, $500,000, "New Reproductive Technologies and the Family", principal investigator with M. Somerville and P. Nathanson in connection with the development of a Family and Law Program (McGill Centre for Medicine, Ethics, and Law)
Major research area:
Hinduism and Buddhism in India; Tamil Vaisnavism (6th-14th century C.E.); Gender and Religion; Comparative Ethics


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